No customers yet and who to call

A pre-revenue reference list is three people who like the founder. Independent diligence means finding the budget holders who were never approached.

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In short

A pre-revenue company's reference list is three people who like the founder. Independent diligence means finding the budget holders who were never approached and asking whether they have the problem, what they spend on it now, and what would have to be true for them to buy.

Who do you call pre-revenue?

Budget holders in the target segment who have never met the company, and vendors selling adjacent products into the same budget. Both describe the buying reality without any relationship to the founder.

That independence is the whole point. A founder-supplied reference is a curated sample of one, and curation is rational rather than dishonest.

Recruiting them is harder than recruiting a founder's contacts, and it is the part that makes the exercise worth commissioning. A budget holder with no relationship to the company has no reason to take the call, which means the screen has to be built around who they are rather than around who is reachable — the same constraint that governs any narrow B2B screen.

Two reference sets. One is supplied and curated; the other is assembled independently. Both are legitimate inputs and they answer different questions.
Founder-supplied referencesIndependently sourced buyers
Who they arePeople who already chose to engageBudget holders who have never met the company
Tell youThat the product can be likedWhether a budget exists to buy it
SelectionCurated, rationallyDrawn from the target segment

What does a friendly pilot prove?

That someone was willing to try it, usually at no cost and no risk. That is evidence of interest and almost none of purchase intent, because nothing in a free pilot tests whether a budget exists — the same gap that separates a pilot from a renewal.

Pilots also select for the most enthusiastic possible participant, which is precisely the population least representative of the market.

The pilot's terms are what to establish rather than its existence. Whether anyone paid, who authorized it, what it displaced and what would have to happen for it to continue are four questions that convert a pilot from a logo on a slide into a data point. A pilot nobody had to fund tells you about the product and nothing about the market.

How do you find the real buyer?

Ask who currently pays for the workaround. The person whose budget absorbs the manual effort today is the person a solution has to displace, and they are frequently not the enthusiastic user.

That question also tends to reveal whether the founder has identified the right buyer, which is itself a diligence finding.

The workaround question also works where a founder's own account is unreliable, without anyone having to say so. Asking who pays for the manual effort today produces a name and a function, and comparing that against who the company has been selling to is a two-minute check that frequently reframes the whole go-to-market section of a deck.

What do adjacent vendors know?

How the budget actually behaves — what gets approved, when, and what the last three attempts to sell into it looked like. They have run the motion the startup has not yet attempted.

They are also candid, because they are describing a market rather than their own product, and they have no relationship with the company being assessed.

Adjacent vendors are also the fastest route to the calendar. Budgets in most segments move on cycles, and someone who has sold into that budget three times can tell you when decisions are made and what has to be in place beforehand — timing information a pre-revenue company usually does not have and that materially changes a revenue forecast.

What separates interest from intent?

A named budget and a timeline. Enthusiasm without either is a signal about the problem rather than about the company, and confusing the two is the most common pre-revenue diligence error.

Where a buyer can name both, the conversation has moved from validation to forecasting, which is a much stronger position for a thesis.

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Pratyush Sharma AVP Marketing · Nextyn

Pratyush leads marketing at Nextyn and works alongside the research desk on how primary evidence reaches the people who commission it. He writes on expert research methods, buyer behavior and how investment and strategy teams source what they cannot desk-research. More from Pratyush

Cite this article Nextyn Articles, “No customers yet and who to call”, Pratyush Sharma, 25 August 2026, updated 25 August 2026. https://www.nextyn.com/articles/early-stage-customer-discovery

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